Joy and I have published our next two episodes of The Collective Voice podcast! Search The Collective Voice on iTunes and download for your next commute, road trip, or fittingly for the 18th episode, long run.

In episode 18, I interview my cousin Sabina Piras. (Well, she’s Rob’s first cousin’s daughter – you can help me figure out the connection). Sabina is a structural engineer by day and elite endurance athlete by early morning, evening, night and weekend. Most recently, Sabina qualified for the 2016 Olympic trials for the marathon; was the 1st place American at the Paris marathon, and has qualified for the Ironman World Championships in Kona.

It was fun to learn from Sabina and hear her give the advice that anyone at any stage of life needs to hear: You are the only one standing in your way. Learn from Sabina’s infectious positive attitude as she recovered from injuries and personal setbacks. You’ll leave this episode contemplating how you can incorporate more discipline and resolve into your own life.

I’m proud of Sabina and all she has accomplished! Connect with Sabina on Instagram @sabina_piras and her soon-to-be-updated website.

In episode 17, we push pause on podcast interviews to talk about three things:

  • Our wishes – specifically for women – in 2017: Joy highlights the importance of setting boundaries, knowing what you value, recognizing that these needs evolve and focusing on self-care. I discuss the importance of speaking up, stepping out and taking action.
  • Podcast milestones – We recently have been syndicated through Live Lead Play and are well over 1000 downloads. We’ve featured 12 entrepreneurs – mostly women from Dallas who are inspiring us and our audience to take risks, say yes, and embrace our differences.
  • Personal milestones – We talk about the continued growth of our side hustles. For Joy, this includes teaching executive education courses at SMU, consulting in the community, and collaborating on events such as My Forward Life Clarity Retreat. For me, this includes celebrating the first birthday and 5000 visits to Small Town Leadership, joining the church choir, and wrapping up my Certified Professional Coach certification through iPEC.

Check out all of our episodes HERE.



Small Town Leadership Founder; Natalie believes everything she needed to know to succeed in her career she learned by growing up in a town of 600 people. As a Certified Professional Coach and award-winning public speaker, she helps her clients and audiences make wherever they are feel like a small town. She lives in Dublin, Ohio with her husband, Rob, a professor at Ohio State and two little girls.

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